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are still for amnesty today. it's going to cost taxpayers of millions of dollars, cost american workers thousands of jobs and nothing but encourage more illegal immigration. that is congressman smith already denouncing any idea of comprehensive immigration reform. how do you get members of the gop in the house on board when they're already shooting down this idea? >> tamron, i hope that no one will ever have to hear the shrill scream i heard in my office when a mother fell down on the floor saying that we were going to try to help her college-aged student from being deported. this is a painful family issue of hard working individuals who pay their taxes, who are now looking for relief. i'll tell you the way that we'll be able to handle this, with the compassion and the understanding that we have no other place to go and with voices like senator mark rubio and we hope many more. i can't attribute to him a senator that promotes amnesty because he wasn't here in the united states congress but i also say to you that
are still for amnesty today. it's going to cost taxpayers of millions of dollars, cost american workers thousands of jobs and nothing but encourage more illegal immigration. that is congressman smith already denouncing any idea of comprehensive immigration reform. how do you get members of the gop in the house on board when they're already shooting down this idea? >> tamron, i hope that no one will ever have to hear the shrill scream i heard in my office when a mother fell down on the...
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this process is not automatic amnesty. the senators are calling it a tough but fair path to citizenship. an undocumented worker must complete a background check and be clear of any felony charges. they must pay any fines and any back taxes. there is a requirement to learn english and american civics over the course of the next several years. after passing these benchmarks, an undocumented immigrant will be granted legal working status. they will be issued green cards on the condition of the border being made secure. i'm a little confused on exactly how that works. we'll get to it in a moment. reform advocates hope the involvement of republican senator marco rubio will bring nervous conservatives along. in the house, speaker john boehner says he remains optimistic in legislation moving forward. republican congressman mario diaz-balart says he has been working with democrats in his chamber. >> we've seen that the speaker has said he wants to get it done. we've seen what the minority leader says that they want to get it done.
this process is not automatic amnesty. the senators are calling it a tough but fair path to citizenship. an undocumented worker must complete a background check and be clear of any felony charges. they must pay any fines and any back taxes. there is a requirement to learn english and american civics over the course of the next several years. after passing these benchmarks, an undocumented immigrant will be granted legal working status. they will be issued green cards on the condition of the...
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i think to call it amnesty is not it. i think it is probably a little bit more complicated. >> okay. >> i tried to talk my way out of it. >> i liked what you are trying to do there. some democrats want to make sure that health care exchanges, those are open to immigrants as well. that sounds like a pretty tough sell. do you think that is possible? >> well, i guess it depends on the details of the deal. i think when you step back and what is interesting business immigration reform is how much things have changed. the politics is kind of at the moment republicans are facing a demographic reality they can no longer ignore. there is clearly this momentum towards a deal. if you factor in health care and the potential for millions of more people being added to potential health care exchanges or whatever it might be, there is a cost after that. you have to balance that with the fact that the reality is when these folks come out of the shadows they will be paying federal taxes and filing income taxes. this will balance out. it do
i think to call it amnesty is not it. i think it is probably a little bit more complicated. >> okay. >> i tried to talk my way out of it. >> i liked what you are trying to do there. some democrats want to make sure that health care exchanges, those are open to immigrants as well. that sounds like a pretty tough sell. do you think that is possible? >> well, i guess it depends on the details of the deal. i think when you step back and what is interesting business...
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amnesty is going to be a part of this. why are we afraid of that? would the republicans even consider doing this if they couldn't score political points? your thoughts. >> i think as e.j. pointed out, i think there are some for whom there is a political reality that has brought them to the table. and you can tell they've done their homework. there is now two memos that have gone out from different groups to republicans kind of saying here is how you talk about these issues. right. you don't talk about anchor babies and we don't talk about aliens. and you notice that their language, they have rubio out there trying to help garner support from the tea party folks. and they're talking about tough and fair. i guess on some level, yeah we have to grow up, ed. but there is a part of me that feels like if we end up with good policy in this instance, and if it meant that people came to the table because of politics, but we end up with good policy that's the right thing to do, i think that's a good result. >> that's a great point. i don't think it's good pol
amnesty is going to be a part of this. why are we afraid of that? would the republicans even consider doing this if they couldn't score political points? your thoughts. >> i think as e.j. pointed out, i think there are some for whom there is a political reality that has brought them to the table. and you can tell they've done their homework. there is now two memos that have gone out from different groups to republicans kind of saying here is how you talk about these issues. right. you...
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in reality, what's been created is a de facto amnesty. we have been too content for too long to allow individuals to mow our lawn, serve our food, clean our homes and even watch our children while not affording them any of the benefits that make our country so great. >> a few of the bullet points, under the framework, those seeking citizenship would be required to register with the federal government, settle debts with the government including fines and back taxes, undergo a background check and learn english and american civics. yesterday, marco rubio in florida sought to win over conservatives opposed to any deal with threats of amnesty. >> there are over 11 million workers undocumented. that's not something any wanted to see happen. it is what has happened. we have an obligation and need to address the reality of the situation we face. i think today is an important first step in what's going to be a significant complicated journey. the issue of immigration is not a simple one. we have the opportunity to do it right and if we do, i thin
in reality, what's been created is a de facto amnesty. we have been too content for too long to allow individuals to mow our lawn, serve our food, clean our homes and even watch our children while not affording them any of the benefits that make our country so great. >> a few of the bullet points, under the framework, those seeking citizenship would be required to register with the federal government, settle debts with the government including fines and back taxes, undergo a background...
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let's watch. >> this is not amnesty. it is a tough path to citizenship, but it is an opportunity, and they get in line between -- behind everyone who has come to this country legally. >> you have to work. you have to pay taxes. you are going pay a fine. there will be some admission of wrong doing. so it is not amnesty in any sense of the word. >> chris, susan was just talking about warmer temperatures today. it does feel different. maybe we're just all so hungry for anything that's bipart sfwlan, but this seems to be real. >> it does seem to be real. i would say that i think what senators mccain and schumer are talking about is the nub of the issue. particularly can republican members of congress convince their -- themselves and the people who elect them that this path to citizenship clause is tough enough that it doesn't amount to just saying, well, it's okay. you broke the rules. you can still be in this country. that's always been the tough thing. look, this was the same john mccain who when he was faceed in a primary
let's watch. >> this is not amnesty. it is a tough path to citizenship, but it is an opportunity, and they get in line between -- behind everyone who has come to this country legally. >> you have to work. you have to pay taxes. you are going pay a fine. there will be some admission of wrong doing. so it is not amnesty in any sense of the word. >> chris, susan was just talking about warmer temperatures today. it does feel different. maybe we're just all so hungry for anything...
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after florida senator marco rubio calling him amazingly naive to believe the plan would not amount to amnesty. >>> lamar alexander of tennessee talked to chuck todd on "the daily rundown" about gun control and video games. take a listen. >> i think video games is a bigger problem than guns because video games affect people. but the first amendment limits what we can do about video games. the second amendment to the constitution limits what we can do about guns. >>> senator john mccain appeared at a breakfast in washington where he told a joke about himself and the low approval ratings of his colleagues. >> a guy ran up in the airport and say anybody tell you look like john mccain? i said, yeah. he says, doesn't it sometimes make you mad as hell? >> that's your morning dish of scrambles politics. >>> we tern to nbc meteorologist bill karins with the weather channel forecast. good morning you to, bill. >> the last 48 hours have been a blur. so much cleanup to be done. now we're doing it in bitterly cold temperatures, too. the problem is all the way up through connecticut. look at these wind gus
after florida senator marco rubio calling him amazingly naive to believe the plan would not amount to amnesty. >>> lamar alexander of tennessee talked to chuck todd on "the daily rundown" about gun control and video games. take a listen. >> i think video games is a bigger problem than guns because video games affect people. but the first amendment limits what we can do about video games. the second amendment to the constitution limits what we can do about guns....
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rubio was already talking about how amnesty or what he calls -- he doesn't call it amnesty. >> you're not supposed to say the word. snoo what he calls a pathway needs to be tied to border security, and the president is saying now. that's going to be a huge sticking point, and that's what republicans are holding out for. they're not that flexible. >> i think the fact that the president is perceived as starting to the left and i see perceived because i think it's all just good sense, but whatever, actually gives the republicans a little biltmore room to come to the center, and i think that is a very smart strategy. we'll see how it shakes out. in the end it will mean that some of these phrases, like send them all back, will be easier to do away with because we can actually focus on some of the key elements. >> i think the thing that's next in terms of negotiating, but by sticking to his values, that is a better way to rally support outside than getting stuck in the muck of the negotiations. right now the main negotiations are between the senate, republicans and democrats, who put togeth
rubio was already talking about how amnesty or what he calls -- he doesn't call it amnesty. >> you're not supposed to say the word. snoo what he calls a pathway needs to be tied to border security, and the president is saying now. that's going to be a huge sticking point, and that's what republicans are holding out for. they're not that flexible. >> i think the fact that the president is perceived as starting to the left and i see perceived because i think it's all just good sense,...
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that is promises of enforcement and immediate amnesty. and of course the promises of enforcement never materialize, the amnesty happens immediately. >> rick perry and newt gingrich both got stung when in the primary process they stepped out of the gop rank and file on this issue. could it happen to marco rubio? >> it could. but this is how he will define himself as a national figure. there's no doubt that marco rubio is running for president in 2016. he's going to think that he's going to try and bring the republican party along with him if he can. did he get out there maybe a little too visibly and a little too enthusiastically on day one with the gang of eight? perhaps. but i think he's thinking he's going to make a big national play. and he's going to work from the outside in. he's going to be the conservative who can appeal to the hard working, intense people at the grassroots in iowa, south carolina, et cetera. but also give them the sort of ronald reagan promise of being able to reach back to the middle. that's the argument rubio wi
that is promises of enforcement and immediate amnesty. and of course the promises of enforcement never materialize, the amnesty happens immediately. >> rick perry and newt gingrich both got stung when in the primary process they stepped out of the gop rank and file on this issue. could it happen to marco rubio? >> it could. but this is how he will define himself as a national figure. there's no doubt that marco rubio is running for president in 2016. he's going to think that he's...
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. >> we've passed bills that said it's got teeth and it's got amnesty for people who have been here to while. is this going to work politically and substantively? >> politically i think it's definitely going to work. politically there's the tune of the immigration debate, the fact you have business that needs this, whether it's agricultural, whether it's high-tech. business community is demanding at washington to do something about this and then you have the politics srm of the hispanic vote, so politically this is going to happen. i kind of dush. >> republican control the house. what do they get out of it? >> stop having the hispanic issue as a wedge. to actually begin to have a conversation when the new generation of -- >> like george w. tried to do. >> republicans make the point, the number one issue with hispanics is not immigration. they're right. but they're not listening to you. if you're saying weird things like legitimate rape then that voting bloc isn't going to listen to you on education, on taxes, on any of this stuff. that's what's going on. >> so that's the issue. >> of w
. >> we've passed bills that said it's got teeth and it's got amnesty for people who have been here to while. is this going to work politically and substantively? >> politically i think it's definitely going to work. politically there's the tune of the immigration debate, the fact you have business that needs this, whether it's agricultural, whether it's high-tech. business community is demanding at washington to do something about this and then you have the politics srm of the...
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trey gowdy, a fast and furious devoteee who co-sponsored a bill entitled the prohibiting back door amnesty act, supported arizona's highly controversial immigration law, and received an a-minus rating from numbers usa, a group dedicated to reducing the number of immigrants entering the united states. joining the panel now is the new yorker's nick baumgartem. i read the names of those scintillating sim posa, and i wonder as we talk about the gop 2.0 or 7.0 or whatever it rags you choose to believe this is, are you convinced that this is anything more than rhetoric? i really don't mean to be baiting the witness. do you believe that the gop wants to change, can change, will change? >> it really does sound like some cross between davos in detox. >> i think it probably is just that. >> you use the word rehab, and like davos or rehab, it will have as much chance of working as either of those two things. i think they're just going to talk and talk and talk. no matter how much they talk, they're not going to change the essential way they go about business. if they make a promise to behave differen
trey gowdy, a fast and furious devoteee who co-sponsored a bill entitled the prohibiting back door amnesty act, supported arizona's highly controversial immigration law, and received an a-minus rating from numbers usa, a group dedicated to reducing the number of immigrants entering the united states. joining the panel now is the new yorker's nick baumgartem. i read the names of those scintillating sim posa, and i wonder as we talk about the gop 2.0 or 7.0 or whatever it rags you choose to...
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of congressional republicans' reaction to that was something they called the prohibiting back door amnesty act to try to undo what the president had done. but now just a few months down the road, republicans are embracing the president's whole approach to the problem. he has stood still, and they have moved. and they have moved because they think their own toxicity with latino voters is forcing them to move. but there is one last factor here there is one last immovable truth here for which this remarkable republican freak-out and reversal does not account. and that is the great big outside the beltway secret that latino voters are really liberal, really liberal. jeb bush's republican hispanic outreach group polled swing state latinos after this past election, and it turns out it's not just the issue of immigration where latino voters like democrats better than they like republicans. swing state latinos like the democratic party on all of the issues they were asked about. they like democrats better on education, on women's rights, on values on social issues broadly. they like democrats bett
of congressional republicans' reaction to that was something they called the prohibiting back door amnesty act to try to undo what the president had done. but now just a few months down the road, republicans are embracing the president's whole approach to the problem. he has stood still, and they have moved. and they have moved because they think their own toxicity with latino voters is forcing them to move. but there is one last factor here there is one last immovable truth here for which this...
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it's called amnesty pointless saying take away the spanish surname and latino voters look a great deal like many other democratic constituencies. low income households headed by single mothers and dependent upon some form of welfare are not looking for an excuse or action to join forces with paul ryan and poot toomey. in other words, they'll never be republicans. there's lou bar let that, here is what he said about the immigrants that would be affected by the senator's plan. quote, they will be democrats. i hope politics is not at the root of why we're rushing to pass a bill. anyone who believes that they're going to win over the latino vote is grossly mistaken. the majority that are here illegally are low skilled or may not even have a high school diploma. the republican party is not going to compete over who can give more social programs out. they will become democrats because of the social programs they will depend on. in other words, latinos are democrats endemically. they will vote -- my belief, by the way, this is a case of the republicans, i think as more latinos make it into th
it's called amnesty pointless saying take away the spanish surname and latino voters look a great deal like many other democratic constituencies. low income households headed by single mothers and dependent upon some form of welfare are not looking for an excuse or action to join forces with paul ryan and poot toomey. in other words, they'll never be republicans. there's lou bar let that, here is what he said about the immigrants that would be affected by the senator's plan. quote, they will be...
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in real what's been created is a de facto amnesty. we have been too content for too long to allow individuals to mow our lawn, serve our food, clean our homes, and even watch our children while not affording them any of the benefits that make our country so great. >> here is what the plan includes. the creation of what the sthors call a tough but fair path to stip. strengthening border security with new tools. establishing an effective employment vir fication system to prevent employers from hiring illegal workers. most will be given a provisional status. they would have to go to the back of the line to get their green card. will it work? and will republicans in the house be willing to go along with the plan? linda sanchez is a democratic congresswoman from california. stephanie cut ser the former deputy campaign manager for president obama's re-election. you know, congresswoman, as you know, like most americans i have always thought it idiotic on the part of the republicans to even talk about sending home over 10 million people who h
in real what's been created is a de facto amnesty. we have been too content for too long to allow individuals to mow our lawn, serve our food, clean our homes, and even watch our children while not affording them any of the benefits that make our country so great. >> here is what the plan includes. the creation of what the sthors call a tough but fair path to stip. strengthening border security with new tools. establishing an effective employment vir fication system to prevent employers...
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he's saying what we have under president obama, what we currently have is amnesty. republicans are going to try and change it. he's trying to take the power away from that word. >> all right. we'll see what happens. i saw the other day -- if anybody has an explanation, let me know -- jeb bush, they had approvals/disapprovals, it was that story on hillary and how her approval rating was so high. jeb bush was upside down by ten points. >> it's only his last name. >> maybe they thought it was george. >> that last name. what should he change it to stein? >> how did you come up with that? >>> new orleans enters a brave new era. the hornets are out and the pelicans -- the pelicans are in. that's coming up next in sports. keep it right here on "morning joe." [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. y
he's saying what we have under president obama, what we currently have is amnesty. republicans are going to try and change it. he's trying to take the power away from that word. >> all right. we'll see what happens. i saw the other day -- if anybody has an explanation, let me know -- jeb bush, they had approvals/disapprovals, it was that story on hillary and how her approval rating was so high. jeb bush was upside down by ten points. >> it's only his last name. >> maybe they...
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this, convincing republican talk show hosts, other influential conservatives that what we have now is amnesty, that there need to be changes. change on this just in the last couple weeks is astonish iing. joe, i know you heard some of that this weekend at "national preon you review." >> mike allen, thanks so much. we'll talk to you. >> have a good week. >>> coming up, tiger woods looking like the tiger of old, taking a six-shot lead at torrey pines. highlights from his dominant weekend ahead in sportses. [ man ] i've been out there most of my life. you name it...i've hooked it. but there's one... one that's always eluded me. thought i had it in the blizzard of '93. ha! never even came close. sometimes, i actually think it's mocking me. [ engine revs ] what?! quattro!!!!! ♪ olaf gets great rewards for his small business! pizza! [ garth ] olaf's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! helium delivery. put it on my spark card! [ pop! ] [ garth ] why settle for less? great businesses deserve great rewards! awesome!!! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capita
this, convincing republican talk show hosts, other influential conservatives that what we have now is amnesty, that there need to be changes. change on this just in the last couple weeks is astonish iing. joe, i know you heard some of that this weekend at "national preon you review." >> mike allen, thanks so much. we'll talk to you. >> have a good week. >>> coming up, tiger woods looking like the tiger of old, taking a six-shot lead at torrey pines. highlights...